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ashokcsn_2000
10-11-2004, 04:24 PM
The First Simley

The smiley :-) and its many variants are an important (and fun!) part of the worldwide online social culture -- allowing emotions to be conveyed in plain text. It has been in widespread use since the early '80s, when it was first proposed. Yet the original message in which the smiley was invented had been lost -- until now. :-) After a significant effort to locate it, on September 10, 2002 the original post made by Scott Fahlman on CMU CS general bboard was retrieved by Jeff Baird from an October 1982 backup tape of the spice vax (cmu-750x). Here is Scott's original post:

19-Sep-82 11:44 Scott E Fahlman :-)
From: Scott E Fahlman <Fahlman at Cmu-20c>

I propose that the following character sequence for joke markers:

:-)

Read it sideways. Actually, it is probably more economical to mark
things that are NOT jokes, given current trends. For this, use

:-(

for more information u can goto
http://research.microsoft.com/~mbj/Smiley/Joke_Thread.html

ashokcsn_2000
10-11-2004, 04:28 PM
The Unofficial Smiley Dictionary



http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/ascii/smileys.html

ashokcsn_2000
10-11-2004, 04:33 PM
Inventor of Smileys - Scott E Fahlman

http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~sef/sef.jpg

Research Professor of Computer Science
Language Technologies Institute and Computer Science Department
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213





Yes, I am the inventor of the sideways “smiley face” (sometimes called an “emoticon”) that is commonly used in E-mail, chat, and newsgroup posts. Or at least I’m one of the inventors.

By the early 1980’s, the Computer Science community at Carnegie Mellon was making heavy use of online bulletin boards or “bboards”. These were a precursor of today’s newsgroups, and they were an important social mechanism in the department – a place where faculty, staff, and students could discuss the weighty matters of the day on an equal footing. Many of the posts were serious: talk announcements, requests for information, and things like “I’ve just found a ring in the fifth-floor men’s room. Who does it belong to?” Other posts discussed topics of general interest, ranging from politics to abortion to campus parking to keyboard layout (in increasing order of passion). Even in those days, extended “flame wars” were common.

Given the nature of the community, a good many of the posts were humorous (or attempted humor). The problem was that if someone made a sarcastic remark, a few readers would fail to get the joke, and each of them would post a lengthy diatribe in response. That would stir up more people with more responses, and soon the original thread of the discussion was buried. In at least one case, a humorous remark was interpreted by someone as a serious safety warning.

This problem caused some of us to suggest (only half seriously) that maybe it would be a good idea to explicitly mark posts that were not to be taken seriously. After all, when using text-based online communication, we lack the body language or tone-of-voice cues that convey this information when we talk in person or on the phone. Various “joke markers” were suggested, and in the midst of that discussion it occurred to me that the character sequence :-) would be an elegant solution – one that could be handled by the ASCII-based computer terminals of the day. So I suggested that. In the same post, I also suggested the use of :-( to indicate that a message was meant to be taken seriously, though that symbol quickly evolved into a marker for displeasure, frustration, or anger.

This convention caught on quickly around Carnegie Mellon, and soon spread to other universities and research labs via the primitive computer networks of the day. (Some CMU alumni who had moved on to other places continued to read our bboards as a way of keeping in touch with their old community.)

Within a few months, we started seeing the lists with dozens of “smilies”: open-mouthed surprise, person wearing glasses, Abraham Lincoln, Santa Claus, the pope, and so on. Producing such clever compilations has become a serious hobby for some people. But only my two original smilies, plus the “winky” ;-) and the “noseless” variants seem to be in common use for actual communication. It’s interesting to note that Microsoft and AOL now intercept these character strings and turn them into little pictures. Personally, I think this destroys the whimsical element of the original.

Unfortunately, I didn’t keep a copy of my original post. It didn’t seem like a big deal at the time. By the time I realized that this smiley-face phenomenon was going to be long-lasting and that it would spread around the world as the Internet grew, it was too late to easily retrieve the post, and the original message was lost for many years.


Several attempts to find the post on old backup tapes were unsuccessful. But recently Mike Jones of Microsoft sponsored a more serious “archeological dig” through our ancient backup tapes. Jeff Baird and the CMU CS facilities staff put in a heroic effort with the support and encouragement of Howard Wactlar, Bob Cosgrove, and David Livingston. They found the proper tapes, located a working tape drive that could read the ancient media, decoded the old formats, and did a lot of searching to find the actual posts. I am most grateful to all who participated in this successful quest, which I call the “Digital Coelacanth Project.”

So the message itself, and the thread that gave rise to it, are here. The exact date of the smiley’s birth can now be determined: 19 September, 1982. It’s great to have this message back just in time for the 20th anniversary of the original post.

As you can see, the note in which I suggested this thing was quite short and casual – just part of an ongoing discussion that involved many people. I apparently didn’t even read it over before posting, since a word or two were dropped in editing. I do remember writing a longer message in which I explained the need for a humor-marker in more detail, and suggested the :-) symbol, along with :-( to indicate anger or real unhappiness. But this longer message must have come later – perhaps a later bboard post or an E-mail message that I sent to someone. In any case, that more detailed post did not turn up in our search.

Many people have denounced the very idea of the smiley face, pointing out that good writers should have no need to explicitly label their humorous comments. Shakespeare and Jonathan Swift and Mark Twain got along just fine without this. And by labeling the remarks that are not meant to be taken seriously, we spoil the joke. In satirical writing, half the fun is in never being quite sure whether the author is serious or not.

To a large degree, I agree with these critics. Perhaps the E-mail smiley face has done more to degrade our written communication than to improve it. But in defense of the idea, let me say two things:
First, not all people who post on boards have the literary skill of Shakespeare or Twain, and even those luminaries had bad days. If Shakespeare were tossing off a quick note complaining about the lack of employee parking spaces near the Globe Theater, he might have produced the same kind of sloppy prose that the rest of us do. Besides, Shakespeare’s work is full of clichés and his spelling was atrocious. :-)
Second, and more important, these authors were publishing their words in a different medium, with different properties. If 100,000 copies of a novel or an essay were distributed in printed form, and if 1% of the readers didn’t get the joke and were outraged at what they had read, there was nothing these clueless readers could do to spoil the enjoyment of the other 99%. But if it were possible for each of the 1000 clueless readers to write a lengthy counter-argument and to flood these into the same distribution channels as the original work, and if others could then jump into the fray in similar fashion, you can see the problems that this would cause. If the judicious use of a few smilies can reduce the frequency of such firestorms, then maybe it’s not such a bad idea after all. Again, we’re talking here about casual writing on the Internet, not great works printed in one-way media that relatively inaccessible to the general public.

One final point: I’ve seen various claims that the sideways smiley face was invented by someone else. I believe that I invented this particular glyph and the “turn your head to one side” principle independently. I don’t recall seeing anything like this before my post, though a few messages in the thread we just located come close. Leonard Hamey’s post suggesting (#) for humor might be taken as an example of “turn your head to one side” – it’s not really clear if that was his intent – and apparently \__/ was used by one of our research groups to indicate a smile. I’ve never seen any hard evidence that the :-) sequence was in use before my original post, and I’ve never run into anyone who actually claims to have invented it before I did. But it’s always possible that someone else had the same idea – it’s a simple and obvious idea, after all.

Some people have told me that the :-) or :) convention was used by teletype operators in the old days. Maybe so. I haven’t seen any examples of this, but it’s plausible, given the limitations of the character set in that medium.

So, the smiley idea may have appeared and disappeared a few times before my 1982 post, but it is pretty clear from the timing that my suggestion was the one that finally took hold, spread around the world, and spawned thousands of variations.

Let me close with a quote from an interview with Vladimir Nabokov, author of Lolita and other modern classics (thanks to Eli Brandt for calling this to my attention):

Q: How do you rank yourself among writers (living) and of the immediate past?
Nabokov: I often think there should exist a special typographical sign for a smile – some sort of concave mark, a supine round bracket, which I would now like to trace in reply to your question.

silican
10-11-2004, 05:02 PM
A good one :) :clap: :sm03:

But guess who invented :evil: ??

Silican :lol:

Priyanka
10-11-2004, 06:39 PM
A good one :) :clap: :sm03:

But guess who invented :evil: ??

Silican :lol:

Oh! appadiya seithi! Naan shy thaan invent panninaangannu nenacchen! Yenna enna porutthavaraiyil she uses maximum number of :evil: s. Atleast oru postukku oru dhadavaiyaavathu use panniduvaanga! (Sorry shy! adikka varaatheenga!

silican
10-11-2004, 06:43 PM
Oh! appadiya seithi! Naan shy thaan invent panninaangannu nenacchen! Yenna enna porutthavaraiyil she uses maximum number of s. Atleast oru postukku oru dhadavaiyaavathu use panniduvaanga! (Sorry shy! adikka varaatheenga!





Karthi's,
Idhukku peru dhan elipori'la kaala vudaradhu..Sila vishayam public'a pesalam..sila vishayam opena kekka koodadhu. namakku therinja kooda yenna, yaarinnu ? :00: ippdi oru muzhi vachikittu kekkanum..:think: Neenga paatukku vaaya kodthu maatikireengale. :lol:

Silican

Priyanka
10-11-2004, 06:50 PM
Silican! Neenga thappa purinjukkitteenga! All Indians are my brothers and sisters (except my husband) appadingara kolgaiyai udaiyaval naan. Appo Shy akkavum enudaiya sahothari. Avangaloda anbu thangai avangalai anba kindal panninathai nicchaiyam thappa edutthukka maattanga! Enna engalukkulla irukkara paasa pinaippu appadi.

silican
10-11-2004, 06:57 PM
Silican! Neenga thappa purinjukkitteenga! All Indians are my brothers and sisters (except my husband) appadingara kolgaiyai udaiyaval naan. Appo Shy akkavum enudaiya sahothari. Avangaloda anbu thangai avangalai anba kindal panninathai nicchaiyam thappa edutthukka maattanga! Enna engalukkulla irukkara paasa pinaippu appadi.



Aaah aah, ratham vazhiyudhu overa soriyaraangappa.. :doh: Settu sendhuttangaiya...

goodcomplanboy
10-11-2004, 07:08 PM
All Indians are my brothers and sisters (except my husband)


Appo Hrithik Roshan kooda unga brother thaane :think:

:evil: smiley yaaru romba use pannuvaanga :think: :00: (ithu ok'va silican :wink:)

silican
10-11-2004, 07:10 PM
:evil: smiley yaaru romba use pannuvaanga :think: :00: (ithu ok'va silican ;) )



:clap: :sm03: :clap: :sm03: :clap: :sm03: :clap: :sm03:

Silican

Priyanka
10-11-2004, 07:19 PM
Appo Hrithik Roshan kooda unga brother thaane

Oh! avarai maranthutteno! Ippo soldren. enga aatthu kararaiyum Hrithik roshan-aiyum thavira bakki ellorume enakku brothers and sisters

Bluelotus
10-11-2004, 07:54 PM
:b: interesting to read about how emoticons came into "exhistence"
Thanx Ashok :D

:evil: has been copyrighted now for a long time....the person might start chraging us royalties if we abuse it :wink:

Karthis Karthis, ungallukku enna sollae :think:

only use the "brother/sister" card when in dire need :wink:
'cause sometimes it may backfire :ee:

blue.

Shy
10-11-2004, 10:35 PM
Good one Ashok :b: .. the guy Scott E Fahlman himself has a big smile.. :)

silican, romba intelligenta question kaetathaa nenaipaa :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Yaaru invent panina enna.. eppadi yaar athai akaraiyooda parthu use panraanganu parkanum..yaethoo aasaiyaa naan parthutu irukaen athu pudikalaiyaa ungalukku..

Karthis no worries.. no kovam at you at all.. enakku theriyum, intha silican thaan yaethaa senchu ungalai mativida try panuvaar... but naan namba mataen :yes:

GCB unga mela akkarai irukarthu naala solraen.. antha gang kooda seraatheenga, appuram ungalukkum unga GFskku sandai mooti viduvaanga .. appuram ungalaukku thaan kashtaam. aama solitaen :)

Just kidding

Shy

goodcomplanboy
10-11-2004, 11:29 PM
cho chweet Shy akka :sm08:

Enakku ippo innoru akka'vum irukkanga. Karthis akka :D.

Blues :wink: ungalukku antha maathiri yethaachum plans irukka "All except few quoted, are brothers/sisters"

PS: Shy correct'a GFskku nu plural'le pottuteenga, danks danks :)

ashokcsn_2000
10-11-2004, 11:32 PM
cho chweet Shy akka

Enakku ippo innoru akka'vum irukkanga. Karthis akka



ungala maathiri belti adikka innoru aallu poranthu varanum... kozhantghai maathiri facea vechukittu pannara looty irukeee.... thangala.....


nalla nakkalum adikareenga... appala akkannu solli jootum udareenga...... ippadi ellam solli thappika paakareengala....

Shy
10-11-2004, 11:39 PM
cho chweet Shy akka :sm08:

Enakku ippo innoru akka'vum irukkanga. Karthis akka :D.

Blues :wink: ungalukku antha maathiri yethaachum plans irukka "All except few quoted, are brothers/sisters"

PS: Shy correct'a GFskku nu plural'le pottuteenga, danks danks :)

Oh good.. naraiyaa akka to take care of you.. also cautious'a irukanum.. yaethaa naughty velai sencha nalla udai vilum theriyumla ;)

Shy

silican
10-12-2004, 01:37 AM
Adopaavigala...ippdi settu sendhuteengale. GCB inima aadra rama aadra raama, karnam podra rama dhan !

asokku, veronnum illa da, kilikku rekka molachiduthoo, parandhu poidthu !

Silican

dinesh
10-12-2004, 08:12 AM
Silican! Neenga thappa purinjukkitteenga! All Indians are my brothers and sisters (except my husband) appadingara kolgaiyai udaiyaval naan. Appo Shy akkavum enudaiya sahothari. Avangaloda anbu thangai avangalai anba kindal panninathai nicchaiyam thappa edutthukka maattanga! Enna engalukkulla irukkara paasa pinaippu appadi.

yappa.....orey ice mazhai....shy akka-ku jalathosham pudikka povuthu :sm12:

Priyanka
10-12-2004, 12:27 PM
Karthis no worries.. no kovam at you at all.. enakku theriyum, intha silican thaan yaethaa senchu ungalai mativida try panuvaar... but naan namba mataen


Correcta sonnenga Shy akka. Intha Silican than ethetho kelvi kettu enna maatti vida pakkuraaru. Ithu nyayama? Neengale sollunga! :cry: Nallavelai neenga athellam nambalai. Romba thanks.

Ellarum intha Silican kitta konjam jagirathaiyave irungapa. Enna mathiri mattikkatheenga!


yappa.....orey ice mazhai....shy akka-ku jalathosham pudikka povuthu

Enna dinesh neenga! Ice-nu solli oru unmaiyaana akka thangacchi oravaiye koccha paditthitteengale! Cha! Manasukke romba kashtam aayiducchi :oops: Pasa malar Annan thangai pasattha vida melanathu enga pasam theriyuma?

silican
10-12-2004, 01:13 PM
Ellarum intha Silican kitta konjam jagirathaiyave irungapa. Enna mathiri mattikkatheenga!


Pora pokkula unga ponnu kitta, "ozhunga mammu saapdalenna Silican kitta pudchi koduthruven'nu solli vachalum aacharya padaradhukku illa :snooty: "

Ovvoru season'la Geetham'la ovvoruthanga attagasam pannuvanga, Sofia, appuram suha, ippo neengala ?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

-Silican

Priyanka
10-12-2004, 01:40 PM
Pora pokkula unga ponnu kitta, "ozhunga mammu saapdalenna Silican kitta pudchi koduthruven'nu solli vachalum aacharya padaradhukku illa

Aiiiii! :clap: Ithu nalla ideava irukke. Thanks for your good idea. Yenna en ponnukku amma appa rendu per kittaiyum bayame illai. Unga perukkaanom bayam irukkannu parpom. Try pannittu feedbacka unga kitta solren.

goodcomplanboy
10-12-2004, 03:02 PM
ungala maathiri belti adikka innoru aallu poranthu varanum... kozhantghai maathiri facea vechukittu pannara looty irukeee.... thangala.....

nalla nakkalum adikareenga... appala akkannu solli jootum udareenga...... ippadi ellam solli thappika paakareengala....


Ashok, :sm02: secrets ellam veliyile solla koodathu ok'va. The reason I called "karthis" akka is because she called everyone of us as Brothers/Sisters. Nalla padeenga avanga pottu irukka message'a.

Infact, neengalum Silican'um kooda can call her "akka" or like Katteri calls her "ammaaaaa", or "chithiiiiiiiiiiiii", or "aunty aunty aunty" :sm12:



Adopaavigala...ippdi settu sendhuteengale. GCB inima aadra rama aadra raama, karnam podra rama dhan !

asokku, veronnum illa da, kilikku rekka molachiduthoo, parandhu poidthu !


Silican machi, namma appadiya pazhagi irukkom. Che naan potta message'a thappa padichitiye :(

PS: Silican recent'a Vietnam Veedu padam paatheengala :sm12:

RaasuKutty
10-12-2004, 03:37 PM
Silican machi, namma appadiya pazhagi irukkom. Che naan potta message'a thappa padichitiye


GCB, oru round adicha thaan bulti.. ippadi pala round adicheenga nna unga thalai thaan suthum... paarthu koonga.. :lol:

Shy
10-12-2004, 04:09 PM
Silican machi, namma appadiya pazhagi irukkom. Che naan potta message'a thappa padichitiye


GCB, oru round adicha thaan bulti.. ippadi pala round adicheenga nna unga thalai thaan suthum... paarthu koonga.. :lol:

RK eppadi irukeenga? very true... but GCB romba nalla paiyan unga silican kootam mathiri ellam ellai :evil: :evil: :evil: avar bulti ellam adika mataar.. unmai matum thaan soluvaar.. enna GCB naan solrathu correct thaanae :)

Karthis.. antha gang appadi thaan namba paasathai kindal panuvaanga.. athuvum silican and dinesh kaeka vendaam .. but kavalai veendam :) neenga unga ponnu kita puthu puchaandi pathi sollunga, appuram irukku :lol: :lol:

Shy

ashokcsn_2000
10-12-2004, 04:22 PM
RK eppadi irukeenga? very true... but GCB romba nalla paiyan unga silican kootam mathiri ellam ellai avar bulti ellam adika mataar.. unmai matum thaan soluvaar.. enna GCB naan solrathu correct thaanae


teacher neenga postai ellam ozhunga thaan padikkareengala..... :00:
avatarai paathu emanthudaatheenga..... vera gangla naan senhutaalaum etho perianvagannu mathichu kodi kaaturen... paathu......

Shy
10-12-2004, 05:10 PM
RK eppadi irukeenga? very true... but GCB romba nalla paiyan unga silican kootam mathiri ellam ellai avar bulti ellam adika mataar.. unmai matum thaan soluvaar.. enna GCB naan solrathu correct thaanae


teacher neenga postai ellam ozhunga thaan padikkareengala..... :00:
avatarai paathu emanthudaatheenga..... vera gangla naan senhutaalaum etho perianvagannu mathichu kodi kaaturen... paathu......

naan padikarthu irukatum

u joined that gang.. did u really :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: avaloo thaan ini...

King avatar vachu irunthum eppadi avanga pechu kaetu yaemaanthuteengalae :(

Shy

Priyanka
10-12-2004, 06:11 PM
Silican, GCB, and Katteri. Ungalukku lollu oru alavukku illama poiducchu. Irunga irunga ungalukkellam en ponnu kaiyaala sematthiya adi irukku. Ippaiye "yaaramma adikkanum"nu kettu kaiya ongi ongi kaamikkaraa!

Jaaggirathai! En ponnoda adi evvalavu powerful-nu vaangina enakku thaan theriyum. Oru thadavai ava kitta adi vaangineenga! Appuram bayandukkittu vaiye thorakka maattenga! Aamam sollipputten.

Priyanka
10-12-2004, 06:15 PM
Karthis.. antha gang appadi thaan namba paasathai kindal panuvaanga.. athuvum silican and dinesh kaeka vendaam .. but kavalai veendam neenga unga ponnu kita puthu puchaandi pathi sollunga, appuram irukku

Ivanga soldra pecchai ellam nambaama enmela ivvalavu confidence vacchirukkeengale. Romba thanks shy akka! :cry: :cry: (Ithu azhugai illai. Aanandha kanneer")"

Neenga solrathu correct thaan shy akka. Ennoda ponnu ippo paal kudikka romba padutthina Odane naan "Nee ippo paal kudikkalai... Silican uncle kitta onna pudicchu kuduthuduven" appadinnu sonnathu thaan thamatham. Odane bayanthu nadungi poitta! Intha idea bayangarama workout aaguthu. Unga friends or relatives yaarukkavathu kuzhandhaigal irundha avangalukkum intha idea-vai kudunga.

goodcomplanboy
10-12-2004, 06:32 PM
RK eppadi irukeenga? very true... but GCB romba nalla paiyan unga silican kootam mathiri ellam ellai avar bulti ellam adika mataar.. unmai matum thaan soluvaar.. enna GCB naan solrathu correct thaanae


Neenga sonna thappaguma Shy :ee:

silican
10-12-2004, 06:40 PM
S: Silican recent'a Vietnam Veedu padam paatheengala


Mo, not Vietnam veedu. It is Gauravam. "ponumnu dhan thonradhu...enga poradhunnu thonaliye..".."o...Hoe. "

Silican

goodcomplanboy
10-12-2004, 07:01 PM
ogay ogay. Naan rendu padamum paathathille, but I know its Sivaji's dialogue athaan kettutten. Now I remember, its the movie which has the song "Paalooti valartha kili, pazham koduthu paartha kili; naan valartha pachai kili naalai varum ...", right?

ashokcsn_2000
10-12-2004, 07:10 PM
ogay ogay. Naan rendu padamum paathathille, but I know its Sivaji's dialogue athaan kettutten. Now I remember, its the movie which has the song "Paalooti valartha kili, pazham koduthu paartha kili; naan valartha pachai kili naalai varum ...", right?



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