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thirudan
11-06-2003, 06:50 PM
ஒரு வார்ததையில ் கவிதை சொல்லவா?
உன் பெயர்....
ஒரு எழுத்தில் கவிதை சொல்லவா?
"நீ"

appu
11-06-2003, 09:13 PM
evalo tharavada ithae kavithaiya solluveenga....eerkanavae 10-15 pattula intha kavithae vanthuduchu....itha kavithainu sollada...kadinu sollu...poruthama irukku...

butterfly
11-07-2003, 01:00 AM
Thirudan,
Can u pls tell me wat font do i have to download to read ur kavithai?...where do I download it frm ...coz all I see is boxes :think:

vasan
11-07-2003, 01:18 AM
butterfly,

check out this thread..

http://www.geetham.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=514

vasan

butterfly
11-07-2003, 02:35 AM
Hi Vasan,
I did download it frm the thread u gave me ...For other microsoft windows operating systems you need to install these fonts to see the letters properly
http://www.geetham.net/downloads/fonts/tau1_bar.ttf
but still all I see is boxes :( ...

vasan
11-07-2003, 02:55 AM
Butterfly,

Did you install the fonts? (start>controlpanel>fonts>install newfonts). Also using the latest intenet explorer is required.

In your Windows explorer check to see if you have view>encoding>autoselect...
That should show unicode (which is what is used to display the tamil characters).

This should work. Hopefully...

Good luck !

sri_gan
11-07-2003, 03:03 AM
Please follow the below procedure after installing the font if you still see boxes.

Hope this helps.



I hope this statement will help those who have difficult to view tamil fonts

step1: In you Internet explorer browser go to View - encoding - choose UTF-8 now the page will refresh and you might seetamil font.

Regards

தமிழன்

There is a minor change in the Step 2 if you are using windows 2000.


Step 2:

Go to Tools - Internet option and click on Fonts button
which is between color and language at the bottom.

Normally you will see Language script(Combo Box):

Latin based now scroll down and select Tamil now you will see Arial.

If you already downloaded the font given in Geetham.

All you have to do is select Font named "TAU_1_Elango_Bharathi"



Then press apply and ok. Now you are ready view tamil font in windows 2000.

It will start functioning immediately

Enjoy.

butterfly
11-07-2003, 03:40 AM
Thanks to both of U...its working :b:

sri_gan
11-07-2003, 04:01 AM
Boomika Fans inga neriya pola, seri athu pogattum.

Tamizh typing pannunga... inga ellarum innum kushi avanga...

thirudan
11-07-2003, 05:48 AM
well how is the work ? sri write a poem plz....by the way if others dont mind means, an info here, just i have started a mini thodarkathai at streamtamil forum, "Kathal valai" people interested in stories, can plz visit the links and enjoy...:)
cheers,
thiru...

sri_gan
11-07-2003, 01:55 PM
எனக்குள் இருக்கும் நீ...
உனக்குள் இருக்கும் நான்...
இதை உணர்ந்தால் நாம்..


Enakkul irrukum nee
Unakkul irrukum naan
Ithai unarnthal Naam


Enn kavithai eppadi irruku? Ithu Natpin oru vadivam.

butterfly
11-07-2003, 11:23 PM
Sri_gan = Boomika Fans inga neriya pola,

I have a face...unga face enge kanom.. :ahha: ...edhu movie poster madhiri iruku :ee:

Boomika Fans??? :think:
keltron fans was around when I left india...ippo bhoomkia fans vandheruka????yarum sollave illai :?

oops ...

butterfly
11-07-2003, 11:26 PM
Sri,
எனக்குள் இருக்கும் நீ...
உனக்குள் இருக்கும் நான்...
இதை உணர்ந்தால் நாம்..

Nalla iruku kavithai...best friends pathi nalla oru kavithai ezhuthunga parpom...nana irundha thirudikaren :ee:

vasan
11-07-2003, 11:28 PM
butterfly,

poem nalla irrukku.. general-la yellorum rasikkum padiya yeludhinadha.. illa vishaym yeppadi??

konjam curiosity adhigam.. kovapadamatteengannu namburen.. :) (hey, naana poem yeludhinen? neenga yeludhineega, naan padichen.. !!)

:) :)

sri_gan
11-07-2003, 11:36 PM
butterfly,

poem nalla irrukku.. general-la yellorum rasikkum padiya yeludhinadha.. illa vishaym yeppadi??

konjam curiosity adhigam.. kovapadamatteengannu namburen.. :) (hey, naana poem yeludhinen? neenga yeludhineega, naan padichen.. !!)

:) :)

Yoov Vasan,

Thats my poem :fight: Imsai pandi un jollukku oru alave illama pochu...

Enakku oru response kuda pannama, boomika photo parthavudane.. trisha ve vittutu boomika ku application poduriya.

This is poetry section pa, Thiruda kudathu.

Yoov Thirudan nee pera mathu... Thirunavukku arasarnu.


Butterfly: I'm thinking beyond the faces now, thats why my avtar too. Watch for the changes... Read my signature often...

dinesh
11-07-2003, 11:41 PM
நான் என்றும் நீ என்றும் இரு வார்த்தை ஒன்றாகி நாம் என்ற ஓர் வார்த்தை உண்டானதே
- வைரமுத்து, கருத்தம்மா படத்தில்

vasan
11-07-2003, 11:46 PM
Yoov Vasan,

Thats my poem :fight: Imsai pandi un jollukku oru alave illama pochu...

Enakku oru response kuda pannama, boomika photo parthavudane.. trisha ve vittutu boomika ku application poduriya.

This is poetry section pa, Thiruda kudathu.

Yoov Thirudan nee pera mathu... Thirunavukku arasarnu.


Butterfly: I'm thinking beyond the faces now, thats why my avtar too. Watch for the changes... Ready my signature often...

sri - thailaiva...

adhu un paattu thaan... naan bhoomika paarkaville...
butter message avanga paatil mayangi paadinapola irundhadhu, adhuthan yenna visahyam-nnu ketten.. curiosity, like I said before..

aama, yarukkaga indha paatu yelidhiney sri? (hee hee thirumba adhey curiosity.. naan yenna panna? kadavul yenna appadi padachitan.. !!)

trish yeppovum trish thaann, katchi yellam maara poradhu ille.. (nenjukkulle innarrandu sonnal theriyuma?... Trish... oh.. Trisha !

sri_gan
11-08-2003, 12:12 AM
aama, yarukkaga indha paatu yelidhiney sri? (hee hee thirumba adhey curiosity.. naan yenna panna? kadavul yenna appadi padachitan.. !!)


Reason vanthu only one thing Friendship, athukku kudavum kuraiyavum ethuvume en manasula illai when i wrote the poem.


நான் என்றும் நீ என்றும் இரு வார்த்தை ஒன்றாகி நாம் என்ற ஓர் வார்த்தை உன்டானதே
- வைரமுத்து, கருத்தம்மா படத்தில்

Shidinesh,

thanks for the recollection, Athu vairamuthu, ithu sri gan, rendukkum neriya vithiyasam irruku.

+ You slipped a "N" "ண்" in the last word.

I remember reading some one's signature about people doing the same thing differently ... If i recollect its vasan's old signature correcta?

vasan
11-08-2003, 12:16 AM
not in my signature sri... though I wish I was that smart to write some nice ones...

sri_gan
11-08-2003, 12:19 AM
not in my signature sri... though I wish I was that smart to write some nice ones...

Seri yaaro oruthar, but athu nalla signature piece.

Shidinesh than enakku romba pidicha signature a maathitar.

butterfly
11-08-2003, 03:37 PM
Vasan,
Butteruku butteraaaa????? :nono: :evil: ...

sari sari poyachu pongo...ungalukuaga oru surutina kavithai eluthiren...enn friend eluthinathu

Adey nee yaro engayo irukirai
nan yaro enkeyo irukiren
mugam theriyatha unnai kanda podhu
therindathu enaku mugam thevai illaiendru
unnai enn agakannal partha podhu
therindathu enaku kankal thevai illai enru
nee sirikum bodhu nanum sirika virumbukiren
nee azhum bodhu nan mattum azha virumbukiren
when u say ur not perfect
I came to know I found a perfect friend

beat this one sri :)

butterfly
11-08-2003, 03:40 PM
Sri,
enna ippadi idichukareengo?....paavam wall we need the wall for geetham...thalaiyle irukire mudi ellam kotide podhu..pudichu ezhukatheengo...tension venam :nono: ...cool down cool down :)...edhuva irundalum sollungo..pesi theerthukalam :ee:

sri_gan
11-08-2003, 04:08 PM
Sri,
enna ippadi idichukareengo?....paavam wall we need the wall for geetham...thalaiyle irukire mudi ellam kotide podhu..pudichu ezhukatheengo...tension venam :nono: ...cool down cool down :)...edhuva irundalum sollungo..pesi theerthukalam :ee:

ithelam sandiye illa... anal parakkum topics neriya irruku... nenga innum antha pakkam pogalai... appuram ippadi ellam sollumatinga... I will come up with a ethir pattu for the poem you posted. We do argue for good reason and it is very healthy community over Geetham.

sri_gan
11-08-2003, 04:30 PM
Vasan,
sari sari poyachu pongo...ungalukuaga oru surutina kavithai eluthiren...enn friend eluthinathu

Adey nee yaro engayo irukirai
nan yaro enkeyo irukiren
mugam theriyatha unnai kanda podhu
therindathu enaku mugam thevai illaiendru
unnai enn agakannal partha podhu
therindathu enaku kankal thevai illai enru
nee sirikum bodhu nanum sirika virumbukiren
nee azhum bodhu nan mattum azha virumbukiren
when u say ur not perfect
I came to know I found a perfect friend

beat this one sri :)


படைப்பது அமுது...
பார்ப்பது இயற்கை...
கேட்ப்பது ரசனை...
பணிவது மதிப்பு...
பண்போடு இருப்பது சிறப்பு...
கூடுவது வெற்றி...
குறைவது தோல்வி...
தோன்றுவது கவிதை...
கூறுவது தமிழ்...
அன்பு இது நட்பு.


padaipathu amuthu...
Parpathu iyarkai...
Ketpathu rasanai...
Panivathu mathippu...
Panpodu irrupathu sirappu...
Kooduvathu vetri...
Kuraivathu tholvi...
Thondruvathu kavithai...
Kooruvathu thamizh...
Anbu ithu natpu.


Speciality of this poem:

1. Read this with a pace, You will feel a rythm.

Enjoy... Hope everyone likes this.

thirudan
11-08-2003, 06:19 PM
Dei adichukatheengada...adangunga. .;)
thiru...

dinesh
11-08-2003, 06:20 PM
Athu vairamuthu, ithu sri gan, rendukkum neriya vithiyasam irruku.

Yes I know. I was comparing both efforts.

You slipped a "N" "ண்" in the last word.

Yes I did. Thanks for pointing it out.

Shidinesh than enakku romba pidicha signature a maathitar.

LOL :)

sri_gan
11-08-2003, 07:34 PM
Dei adichukatheengada...adangunga. .;)
thiru...

Yoov thiruda yaaru ya adichukitta... Intha butter than potti kavithai ezhuthu nu kettanga.. so ezhuthuninen...

Anal parantha thane... interestinga irrukum.. adungu adungu nee ippo ethukku attam podure...

thirudan
11-08-2003, 07:54 PM
Dei naaye, intha forumla sandai podakoodathu, smathanama eathuvena ezhuthi ozhi, sariya? adangu nee....
thiru...

sri_gan
11-08-2003, 07:58 PM
Dei naaye, intha forumla sandai podakoodathu, smathanama eathuvena ezhuthi ozhi, sariya? adangu nee....
thiru...

Dei thiruttu payale...

Kavithai eppadi irrukkunu solluratha vittu putu... adangu adangnu aduriya...


I wrote 2 poem in this topic.

Butter wrote one from some friend...

olunga athukku comments ezhuthu.. illa nee kavithai ezhuthu... Post ellam padikama adangu adangu nu adathe....

appuram unnai kavithaiyale thithuven ippaye solliputen...

thirudan
11-08-2003, 08:11 PM
Seruppadi vanguva naaye, kavithai mattum ezhuthu nee, kadalai podarathe pozhappa pochu, dei machi, ennoda kathai stream tamil la padichaya? eppadida irukku? just your feedback plzz...PM pannu, inga kavithai mattum ezhuthu....
thiru...

butterfly
11-08-2003, 08:42 PM
thirudan wrote:
Dei adichukatheengada...adangunga. .
thiru...


Hi thief,
nango adichukalai...summa oru challenge panen adhunalle nalla oru kavithai kidaicheruku :)...mathavango potentials velile varanumnu konja challenge is good :)...no worries

Sri ,
neengo eluthaneengala andha kavithai...its really good...Keep writing :)

sri_gan
11-09-2003, 01:36 AM
thirudan wrote:
Dei adichukatheengada...adangunga. .
thiru...


Hi thief,
nango adichukalai...summa oru challenge panen adhunalle nalla oru kavithai kidaicheruku :)...mathavango potentials velile varanumnu konja challenge is good :)...no worries

Sri ,
neengo eluthaneengala andha kavithai...its really good...Keep writing :)
Butter,

Nenga vera, antha thief enna serupala adipen nu solluran nenga enna ippadi sollurenga or reaction kuda kattalai, unga friend naan ippadi ellam pathutu summa irruntha eppadi..

Dei Thirutu payale...

Nalla parthu sollu naan engavathu kadalai poduren nu... Un kathai naan innum pakalai... pathutu solluren...

:lol: seri nee enda enna kathai ezhutha venam nu sollure?

silican
11-09-2003, 01:37 AM
keltron fans was around when I left india...ippo bhoomkia fans vandheruka????yarum sollave illai :?
oops ...

aaah..

Idhenna Kavithai Thread'a illa Kadi Thread'a ippdi maathi maathi kadichi kodharreengale..

sri_gan
11-09-2003, 02:08 AM
keltron fans was around when I left india...ippo bhoomkia fans vandheruka????yarum sollave illai :?
oops ...

aaah..

Idhenna Kavithai Thread'a illa Kadi Thread'a ippdi maathi maathi kadichi kodharreengale..


Anne Vanakkam,


sri_gan's poem:
==========


எனக்குள் இருக்கும் நீ...
உனக்குள் இருக்கும் நான்...
இதை உணர்ந்தால் நாம்..


Enakkul irrukum nee
Unakkul irrukum naan
Ithai unarnthal Naam




Butterfly's Poem:
===========

Adey nee yaro engayo irukirai
nan yaro enkeyo irukiren
mugam theriyatha unnai kanda podhu
therindathu enaku mugam thevai illaiendru
unnai enn agakannal partha podhu
therindathu enaku kankal thevai illai enru
nee sirikum bodhu nanum sirika virumbukiren
nee azhum bodhu nan mattum azha virumbukiren
when u say ur not perfect
I came to know I found a perfect friend

sri_gan's poem:
==========



படைப்பது அமுது...
பார்ப்பது இயற்கை...
கேட்ப்பது ரசனை...
பணிவது மதிப்பு...
பண்போடு இருப்பது சிறப்பு...
கூடுவது வெற்றி...
குறைவது தோல்வி...
தோன்றுவது கவிதை...
கூறுவது தமிழ்...
அன்பு இது நட்பு.


padaipathu amuthu...
Parpathu iyarkai...
Ketpathu rasanai...
Panivathu mathippu...
Panpodu irrupathu sirappu...
Kooduvathu vetri...
Kuraivathu tholvi...
Thondruvathu kavithai...
Kooruvathu thamizh...
Anbu ithu natpu.



Just a recap, enjoy.

butterfly
11-09-2003, 05:44 PM
Sri-gan wrote,

Butter,

Nenga vera, antha thief enna serupala adipen nu solluran nenga enna ippadi sollurenga or reaction kuda kattalai, unga friend naan ippadi ellam pathutu summa irruntha eppadi..

Sri,
read again my reply to thief...U will understand wat I meant :-)..

Silican,

ellam serious discussiona irundha it wud make u feel ur in school :-)...so konjum easya povom...still waiting for ur poem.. :Ksp:

arumugam57
11-09-2003, 06:37 PM
antha thief enna serupala adipen nu solluran


Hi.. thief tells to sri_gan. they are friends for the past 34,000 years. So they will talk like that only.

Kandukkatheenga.

sri_gan
11-09-2003, 10:44 PM
Seri seri,

Amaithi pura etho puthusa solluran, ellam kepom.

Kavithai ezhuthunga.

butterfly
11-10-2003, 02:26 AM
Just a poem I liked...On friendship

I'll Be Here

I cannot ease your aching heart,
Nor take your pain away;
But let me stay and take your hand
And walk with you today.

I'll listen when you need to talk,
I'll wipe away your tears;
I'll share your worries when they come,
I'll help you face your fears.

I'm here and I will stand by you,
On each hill you have to climb;
So take my hand, let's face the world...
And live just one day at a time.

You're not alone, for I'm still here,
I'll go that extra mile;
And when your grief is easier,
I'll help you learn to smile!

sri_gan
11-10-2003, 02:59 AM
Thats a good poem. Look at this poem on friendship too, just a little twist.

You can't change the way my heart thinks.
You can't walk with me, I may be miles apart.
You can't listen with me, I might not talk.
You can't wipe with me, I might not cry.
You can't share with me, since I have no worries.
You can't help with me, since I have no fears.
You can't stand by me, I'm not near.
No need to Expect anything.
Because, Expectations never ends.
After all, I have one thing with my heart to the soul
Smile, The language of Friendship.
Smile, It brightens you every day.
Smile, You are a friend.
Smile, So Many Inspirations Like Eternal.

thirudan
11-10-2003, 08:40 AM
sri_gan wrote:
" seri nee enda enna kathai ezhutha venam nu sollure? "

Eppa punniyavane sri, itha itha ithai than eathir parthen, nan kathai ellam ezhuthala, neeye ezhuthu inga, sonnen illa? aarambathileye antha separate topicla? periya periya boss and dons are there appadinu, athu unnaium manasila vachithan,dei vennai naaye ennai chatla kettaa illa? yarum onnum solla maatanganu, inga oru puzhukkam velila varuthu paaru,;), ok machan, start a new story and make this forum more active , as i made streamtamil, really feeling happy da, there kanan gave me a separate catagory for my story...just madhikara edam manasukku romba pidichu irukku...anyway, why dont u give a nice thodarkathai on friendship here? try that da...all the best...
luv,
thiru...

sri_gan
11-10-2003, 01:42 PM
sri_gan wrote:
" seri nee enda enna kathai ezhutha venam nu sollure? "

Eppa punniyavane sri, itha itha ithai than eathir parthen, nan kathai ellam ezhuthala, neeye ezhuthu inga, sonnen illa? aarambathileye antha separate topicla? periya periya boss and dons are there appadinu, athu unnaium manasila vachithan,dei vennai naaye ennai chatla kettaa illa? yarum onnum solla maatanganu, inga oru puzhukkam velila varuthu paaru,;), ok machan, start a new story and make this forum more active , as i made streamtamil, really feeling happy da, there kanan gave me a separate catagory for my story...just madhikara edam manasukku romba pidichu irukku...anyway, why dont u give a nice thodarkathai on friendship here? try that da...all the best...
luv,
thiru...

Pandi unna summa pottu parthen, nee tension ellam agatha.. appuram adangu andangu nu aduve...

Story thane ezhuthiruvom.

sri_gan
11-10-2003, 02:56 PM
Seri innoru kavithai... kanni tamizh nadaile...

This is dedicated to so many unseen friends in memories. I choosed this picture for a specific reason. Enjoy.


http://www.geetham.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=190



காவியமாக நீ இருக்க...
கவிதை தேடி நான் இருக்க...
தோனுது பாரு கவிதை...
இது குறை யாத இயற்கை...

காரணம் தேடி பலர் இருக்க...
கலங்காது நாம் இருக்க...
தோனுது பாரு கவிதை...
இது குறை யாத இயற்கை...


அன்பை தேடி பலர் இருக்க...
அன்பு எங்கும் நிறைந்திரு க்க...
தோனுது பாரு கவிதை...
இது குறை யாத இயற்கை...


Kaviyamaga nee irruka
kavithai thedi naan irruka
Thoonuthu paaru kavithai
Ithu kuriyaatha Iyarkai.


Karanam thedi palar irruka
Kalangathu naam irruka
Thoonuthu paaru kavithai
Ithu kuriyaatha Iyarkai.

Anbai thedi palar irruka
Anbu engum nirainthirukka
Thoonuthu paaru kavithai
Ithu kuriyaatha Iyarkai.

butterfly
11-10-2003, 04:24 PM
Sri,
Unga poem with a twist pudikalai :(

Friendhip na enna?..ppl say friendshiplle expectation kidaiyathunu...vaasika nalla iruku ana practical I dont think so...

To me I expect a lot frm my best friend coz I know i can expect itnu

I expect my bestfriend to protect me,to guide me,to correct me,I know i can argue,fight or scream @ my best friend & expect him/her to be there in the morning to wish me goodmorning :ee:

Ellarukum sogam undu...elarukum share panrathuku neraya iruku...adhuku than God created friends...

True friendship isn't seen with the eyes, it is felt with the heart.
When there is trust, understanding, loyalty, and sharing.
True friendship is a rare feeling, but when it is found
It has profound impact on our well-being, strength, and character.
True friendship does not need elaborate gifts
Or spectacular events in order to be valuable or valued.
To ensure long-lasting quality and satisfaction,
True friendship only needs a few key ingredients:
Undying loyalty, unmatched understanding, unsurpassed trust,
Deep and soulful secrets, and endless sharing.
These ingredients, mixed with personality and a sense of humor,
Can make a friendship last a lifetime!

butterfly
11-10-2003, 04:29 PM
Sri-gan wrote,
This is dedicated to so many unseen friends in memories.

Anbai thedi palar irruka
Anbu engum nirainthirukka
Thoonuthu paaru kavithai
Ithu kuriyaatha Iyarkai.
Sri,
make sure u mail them...illati unga dedication avungaluku eppadi therium :think:

anainar
11-10-2003, 05:31 PM
காலை கதிரவன் வர்னம் போல்
கவலை மறக்க செய்யும்
கள்ளமில்லா நட்பு

This is the reason for your picture Sri gan

Cheers

thirudan
11-10-2003, 05:48 PM
Good work sri keep it up....
thiru...

arumugam57
11-10-2003, 05:58 PM
Thirudaa .. Paarthiyaa unakku pootiyaa naan nadagam start panniten.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol:

thirudan
11-10-2003, 06:14 PM
Good work anainar...keep it up...natpukku endrum illai mutru pulli ye...appadinu namma vaali sonnathu pol, intha natpu topic adangathunu nenaikaren, but regarding friendship my openion is different, it may coincide with someone who told here that it will expect something from some one, not only inthe form of money or help, minimum moral support, thats it...
thiru...

thirudan
11-10-2003, 06:27 PM
Romba nallathu machi, nadathu un naadagathai, mavane vaadi, unnai karolbagh la vachi karpazhikka solren ;)
thiru....

sri_gan
11-10-2003, 07:42 PM
Sri-gan wrote,
This is dedicated to so many unseen friends in memories.

Anbai thedi palar irruka
Anbu engum nirainthirukka
Thoonuthu paaru kavithai
Ithu kuriyaatha Iyarkai.
Sri,
make sure u mail them...illati unga dedication avungaluku eppadi therium :think:

Not Necessary Butter.

Unmayana natpukku ethuvume thevai illai nu nenaikiravan naan.

Entha expectation nu illamal irrukurathu than natpu... athula kuttavo kuraikkavo ennala mudiyathu.... so mail ellam panna matten.

sri_gan
11-10-2003, 07:46 PM
Sri,
Unga poem with a twist pudikalai :(

Friendhip na enna?..ppl say friendshiplle expectation kidaiyathunu...vaasika nalla iruku ana practical I dont think so...

To me I expect a lot frm my best friend coz I know i can expect itnu

I expect my bestfriend to protect me,to guide me,to correct me,I know i can argue,fight or scream @ my best friend & expect him/her to be there in the morning to wish me goodmorning :ee:

Ellarukum sogam undu...elarukum share panrathuku neraya iruku...adhuku than God created friends...

True friendship isn't seen with the eyes, it is felt with the heart.
When there is trust, understanding, loyalty, and sharing.
True friendship is a rare feeling, but when it is found
It has profound impact on our well-being, strength, and character.
True friendship does not need elaborate gifts
Or spectacular events in order to be valuable or valued.
To ensure long-lasting quality and satisfaction,
True friendship only needs a few key ingredients:
Undying loyalty, unmatched understanding, unsurpassed trust,
Deep and soulful secrets, and endless sharing.
These ingredients, mixed with personality and a sense of humor,
Can make a friendship last a lifetime!

Its possible, Ithukellam soga patta naan onnum panna mudiyathu.

Certain things I speak or write may be working out in real.

Enna intha arumuganainar confucious nu solluvar, may be thats true.

Friendship is an ocean, so everything is possible, Take it in a positive spirit.

sri_gan
11-10-2003, 07:48 PM
காலை கதிரவன் வர்னம் போல்
கவலை மறக்க செய்யும்
கள்ளமில்லா நட்பு

This is the reason for your picture Sri gan

Cheers


Thats an awesome poetic expression, Nalla varigal Arumuganainar. :clap:

But thats not a rising sun, thats actually a evening sun set.

anainar
11-10-2003, 08:18 PM
Sri,

Neenga confuscious thaan, there is no doubt at all!!! How can you make out whether it is sun rise or set? They look identical. It is like a saying "Either the cup is half empty or half full" So, it could be a sunrise or sunset. I looked at day and felt it is sun rise, and you are looking at night. I dont know why you think of night. :ahha:

Cheers.

sri_gan
11-10-2003, 08:23 PM
Sri,

Neenga confuscious thaan, there is no doubt at all!!! How can you make out whether it is sun rise or set? They look identical. It is like a saying "Either the cup is half empty or half full" So, it could be a sunrise or sunset. I looked at day and felt it is sun rise, and you are looking at night. I dont know why you think of night. :ahha:

Cheers.

There is a difference, nunukama pakanum. so what ippo naan confuscious irrunthutu poren. No more comments on day/night.


Comparison pictures(Sunrise, Sunset):

http://www.komotv.com/weather/viewer_pics/images/5503-sunrise.jpghttp://www.psa-photo.org/images/sunset.jpg

anainar
11-10-2003, 08:38 PM
Sri,

You should compare apples to apples. The sunrise scene and sunset scene should be the same scenary. Only then you can see whether there is any difference or not. Also photographs can be taken with filters to accentuate some colors. I am sure both the photographs are taken with some filter, atleast by 2 stops. Else you wont be able to see the detail. So, it is very difficult to make out.

Cheers.

sri_gan
11-10-2003, 08:46 PM
Sri,

You should compare apples to apples. The sunrise scene and sunset scene should be the same scenary. Only then you can see whether there is any difference or not. Also photographs can be taken with filters to accentuate some colors. I am sure both the photographs are taken with some filter, atleast by 2 stops. Else you wont be able to see the detail. So, it is very difficult to make out.

Cheers.

:lol: Seri seri ippadi ellam pesi nenga confusious airalam nu pakurengala.. asku busku... :nono:

I completely get you, but since i do poetic notations and I selected for a specific reason... I mentioned what i selected avlothan.

anainar
11-10-2003, 09:01 PM
Cha, Cha, athellam enakku yethukku Sri? There could be only one Confuscious in Geetham and the is the Great Sri_gan. Naanellam uppuku sappani.

I get your point too. It is sun set for you, sun rise for me. Let us agree to disagree Sri, :D

Cheers.

vasan
11-10-2003, 09:06 PM
sunset, sunrise romba easy aah theriyum... evening rays will fill the sky more red... morning light would so the end of the sky little more blue...

sri- potta pics paarunga nalla.. thoorathil vaanam yenna color.. yedhu sunset yedhu sun rise innu theriyum... :)

I agree to find mistakes, how about that???

sri_gan
11-10-2003, 09:11 PM
sunset, sunrise romba easy aah theriyum... evening rays will fill the sky more red... morning light would so the end of the sky little more blue...

sri- potta pics paarunga nalla.. thoorathil vaanam yenna color.. yedhu sunset yedhu sun rise innu theriyum... :)

I agree to find mistakes, how about that???

Nala kavanichiya vasa... arumuganainar ennai eppadi confusious theory oda serthu.. let us agree to disagree yaam...

Dandankku Dandankku Dandankku Dandankku
Dandankku Dandankku Dandankku Dandankku

anainar
11-10-2003, 09:47 PM
Vangayya Vaasan,

Athukku thaan sonnen, photos could be taken very decievingly nnu. And it also depends a lot on the sky conditions. The color is basically because of location of the sun with respect to the sky. First and foremost, the sky looks blue because of Rayleigh scattering. When the viewing angle goes below 45 degrees,( in both sun set and sun rise ) the sun's light has to pass through much thicker air, causing blue light to scatter more and the sun appears red. Technically, there should not be any difference. So your argument that evening sun fills the sky with more red does not hold water. Any one who want to know what is Rayleigh Scattering?

Nammaku avlo seekiram alva kudukka mudiyaathu Vaasan. Sri sollunga, he is always ready to get alva.

Cheers.

sri_gan
11-10-2003, 09:50 PM
Vangayya Vaasan,

Athukku thaan sonnen, photos could be taken very decievingly nnu. And it also depends a lot on the sky conditions. The color is basically because of location of the sun with respect to the sky. First and foremost, the sky looks blue because of Rayleigh scattering. When the viewing angle goes below 45 degrees,( in both sun set and sun rise ) the sun's light has to pass through much thicker air, causing blue light to scatter more and the sun appears red. Technically, there should not be any difference. So your argument that evening sun fills the sky with more red does not hold water. Any one who want to know what is Rayleigh Scattering?

Nammaku avlo seekiram alva kudukka mudiyaathu Vaasan. Sri sollunga, he is always ready to get alva.

Cheers.

Ithu poetic moods le irrunthu mari ippo hot discussions topic aiduchu...

Amaithi pura Arumugam than ithukelam correctu... dei arumuga... inga vada...

anainar
11-10-2003, 10:00 PM
Cha, me not arguing at all. Kavithai and rational/logical thinking does not go together. But neenga thaan topic aarambichu vaicheenga. As a poet you have every freedom to paint an evening sky in Blue. So, take it easy Sri.

Cheers.

vasan
11-10-2003, 10:02 PM
Rayleigh scattering-ah, illai raman effect ah?

anainar, neenga solra theory enno correct pola thonalam.. aana, notice the difference in air temp during the early morning and late evening -especially in relation to earth surface temperature...

Sky looks more red simply because more red light (on the lower end of the rainbow spectrum) gets scattered during the time when sun is at the lower horizon... (because light rays gotta travel through the longer distance or thicker medium as you have written). On the other hand the far horizon (not the region closer to the sun, but the opposite side (or the end part of the photo) would look lighter in the dawn (blue) and much darker in the night (much darker towards black)...

so, I think the sky will look different..

enna, complete nonsense nnu sollareengala? why innu sollunga, first.. :)

sri_gan
11-10-2003, 10:05 PM
Vasan and Arumuganainar,

Enna summa irruka vida mattinga pola irruku.



Sky looks more red simply because more red light (on the lower end of the rainbow spectrum) gets scattered during the time when sun is at the lower horizon... (because light rays gotta travel through the longer distance or thicker medium as you have written). On the other hand the far horizon (not the region closer to the sun, but the opposite side (or the end part of the photo) would look lighter in the dawn (blue) and much darker in the night (much darker towards black)...


Ithu correct.

anainar
11-11-2003, 01:49 AM
Vasan, you are totally wrong. I can explain it, but will need a lot of figures. The distance between the earth and sun is very high and in front of that the radius of earth is miniscule. The distance between an observer and sun on earth alomost constant whether the sun is setting or rising. By thick media, I meant the atmospheric air and other particles. So, the level of diffraction is the same. Violet is the color loved by our atmoshphere and hence it absorbs it. Otherwise sky will be violet. Blue is most scattered wavelength and Red is the least and comes direct to the observer with least amount of diffraction. That is why on a cloudy evening, the sun will look very red.

Anyway, this is a art topic and science does not belong here, because they are opposite poles. So, venumna see any book on basics of optics/diffraction.

Cheers.

vasan
11-11-2003, 02:00 AM
Righto, anainar...

Vasan takes a complete double-take on this: I am wrong. My explanation was completely off the base. For more physics of light scattering and atmospheric phenomena try the Physics hypertext.

Or just click the link:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/atmos/redsun.html#c1

Thanks, anainar...

anainar
11-11-2003, 02:06 AM
Vasan, athellam romba kaalathukku munnadi padichathu. I used to love Physics, but had to chose Engg for obvious reasons. And then there was no end. Went further deep into Engg, but ended up writing software. Atleast the saving grace is I write software for dynamic analysis and a lot of graphics. So me happy that way. But like first love, physics always excites me. And this topic did excite me and hence went overboard though the topic was totally artistic and the artist, Sri_gan has complete liberty to paint sun rise and write a poem convincing us that it is sun set :D :D

Cheers.

sri_gan
11-11-2003, 02:25 AM
Vasan, athellam romba kaalathukku munnadi padichathu. I used to love Physics, but had to chose Engg for obvious reasons. And then there was no end. Went further deep into Engg, but ended up writing software. Atleast the saving grace is I write software for dynamic analysis and a lot of graphics. So me happy that way. But like first love, physics always excites me. And this topic did excite me and hence went overboard though the topic was totally artistic and the artist, Sri_gan has complete liberty to paint sun rise and write a poem convincing us that it is sun set :D :D

Cheers.

Thanks for the credit but I don't misuse the liberty I have.

Apart from that,

1. I didn't paint the picture.

2. I collected it for a reason and I keep track of things what I do.

3. I clearly mentioned in the poem the purpose why i posted the picture.

After all, this topic can also become a hot topic nu inga than theriyuthu.

Good work :).

anainar
11-11-2003, 12:34 PM
Neenga pannineengannu sollalai Sri. I meant you have complete freedom as artist. Art does not have any bounds and cannot be constrained by laws. And photos can also be decieving and it is in th eye of the beholder to interpret what it is. You did not mention that it is a sun set picture. I saw a sun rise and wrote a poem. See, that is the beauty of art, same picture looked differently and brings out different aspects of friendship.

Cheers.

thirudan
11-11-2003, 06:32 PM
Emma emma, dei naayigala??? thirumba adichukaa aarambichaha? kavithai ezhuthungadaana? raman effect, dopler effectnu pesi eanda uirai vaangureenga? dei sri , mavane unnaithan nan adanga solla mudiyum, machi plzz do concentrate in topic da..:(
thiru...

anainar
11-11-2003, 06:38 PM
Thiru,

Athu thaan kavithai ezhuthinanay! Padikkalia neenga? Ithu pure side track because of love for science and love for Sri_gan The Confuscious.

Cheers

thirudan
11-11-2003, 06:55 PM
well
just wanna forget those physics, coming here to write some poems, ingayum athe thalai valinaa? enaiya panrathu? :(
ok carry onn...
thiru....

sri_gan
11-11-2003, 07:06 PM
Seri seri thirudan... back to kavithai...

நான் என்று நினைத்துவி ட்டால் அது நீ.
நாம் என்று நினைத்துவி ட்டால் அது என்னையும் சேர்த்த நீ.

Naan endru ninaithuvittal athu nee.
Naam endru ninaithuvittal athu ennaiyum seertha nee.

thirudan
11-12-2003, 06:33 PM
நானோ இல்லை நாமோ...
நலமாக வாழவே நலம் விழைகின்ட் ரேன்...
நட்புடன் உன்,
திரு... :b: :yes: