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sri_gan
01-08-2004, 03:55 AM
Geetham Family,

Nenga neriya patti mandram pathu irrupenga, Aan(man) Uyarthavangala illa penn (women) uyarthavangalnu...

Namma koncham vithiyasama try pannalama?


Who is the Loser? Man or Women? - ஏமாளி யாரு?ஆணா இல்லை பொண்ணா?

Intha patti mandram sirikavum vaikanum sinthikavum vaikanum, antha mari muyarchi pannunga.

Naanum patti mandrathule kalthukkuven, Naduvara. ;)

Note:

1. Vaatha thiramai parthu mattume theerpu vazhanga padum.

2. No Gender Preference, since it is about gender.

3. Penn urupinar aanukkum, aan urupinar pennukkum pesalam.



Ungalukku theriyathathu onnum illai... enna correct thane...

There are no boundaries for what you need to speak out here since this is patti mandram..... Just focus on the topic....

Paakalam ellaroda vaatha thiramaiyum.

Rekha Nelson
01-08-2004, 06:25 AM
athula enna doubt... boys thaan... Girls are very smart u c :dance:

sabeshan
01-08-2004, 06:43 AM
Loser with respect to which context? In India, girls are losers in many situations whereas guys are losers in some...

sri_gan
01-09-2004, 03:18 AM
Loser with respect to which context? In India, girls are losers in many situations whereas guys are losers in some...

Nalla arambichu irrukenga, neriya details varum pola irruku....um... nadakattum nadakattum...

sri_gan
01-09-2004, 03:34 AM
athula enna doubt... boys thaan... Girls are very smart u c :dance:

Topic Nalla sudu pidikithu.... bring up more points appo than nenga sollurathu ellarukkum theriyum.

sabeshan
01-09-2004, 05:36 AM
Afai can tell... girls are the losers in most cases in India... most girls are not treated equally to their brothers in a family... (I am talking about the big chunk of 40% BPL ppl here not middle class or high class ppl) They are made to toil and work hard for the family while most guys get away with loitering and rowdyism.... but then ultimately girls succeed becos they gte settled in life sooner... such guys become anti-social elements and take years to reform and become normal citizens... so yeah girls lose at some stage and then win... guys win at some stage and lose too... more to come...

reks
01-09-2004, 06:15 AM
ivar entha pakam pesrar'nae puriyalayae :think:
koncham sonna naan adutha side'ku pesuven :ahha:

nyways, in countries like India, boys have more freedom than girls in choosing what they want to do with their life including studies, work, marriage etc...

In more than 80% of the case, if a boy is a loser, he brings it on him himself... so who is to be blamed... he has all the freedom in the world to do anything he wants unlike most of the girls whose freedom is bound by many factors like adakam, odukam, wat the society (pakathu veetu karan) will think etc etc....

katteri
01-09-2004, 12:55 PM
I stick with Women.
Women once she get s married she goes with her husband ....LOSING HER family. that had brought up...
After giving birth to child SHE LOSES many ...(nan parthu irukken amma than kuzhanthai ya vallkanum....appa jolly a tv parthu kittu irupar.. namma la exampel eduthu konkaaa)..
In contrary MEN gains a lot ...oru joke rombha seriuos a edutha katheenkaaa except his right of speech & freedom (he loses both)......

katteri
01-09-2004, 02:58 PM
Enthaa field eduthalum emaravankaa irukiraa variakkum ematharvankaa irupankaaa.
So emaa rama irukanumna awarness+ thelivu+understanding the world thevai..
ithu irunthale pothum ..Men/ Women cant be cheated....

reks
01-09-2004, 09:50 PM
hah i agree with men losing their freedom of speech.. :)
and women loses all her other freedom but for freedom of speech...

sabeshan
01-09-2004, 10:05 PM
In a normal setting, as katteri says, women do lose more than men in the fact that they have to leave their home, parents and stay with a stranger (unless it is a love marriage) for the rest of their lives... the plus point of all that loss is that they get a stable life (mostly) and security if their husband is a responsible person... men don't lose anything except their peace of mind because they have to worry about the household all the time regarding expenses etc. whereas the average Indian housewife is spared of all such worries... the worries for men increase as kids are born etc. so men lose that way... but no single gender is always the loser.. it's all a matter of time and situation...

sri_gan
01-10-2004, 03:36 AM
Topic Back on track....

sri_gan
01-10-2004, 06:13 PM
Geetham Family,

Do you agree with these guys or not agree wit these guys, feed you thoughts, be short and crisp then support you side.

Highlights so far on this topic:

Sabeshan:

The worries for men increase as kids are born etc. so men lose that way... but no single gender is always the loser.. it's all a matter of time and situation...

reks:

In more than 80% of the case, if a boy is a loser, he brings it on him himself... so who is to be blamed... he has all the freedom in the world to do anything he wants unlike most of the girls whose freedom is bound by many factors like adakam, odukam, wat the society (pakathu veetu karan) will think etc etc....


i agree with men losing their freedom of speech..
and women loses all her other freedom but for freedom of speech...


katteri:

In contrary MEN gains a lot ...oru joke rombha seriuos a edutha katheenkaaa except his right of speech & freedom (he loses both)......

Rekha Nelson

athula enna doubt... boys thaan... Girls are very smart u c

reks
01-11-2004, 03:24 AM
men don't lose anything except their peace of mind because they have to worry about the household all the time regarding expenses etc. whereas the average Indian housewife is spared of all such worries... the worries for men increase as kids are born etc. so men lose that way


I dont agree with the part that only men have worries about the family... ofcourse the women too has... both of them share it equally...

mabbe men have additional tension at workplace... but then nowadays more than 70% of the women are also working... so they too have work tensions etc..

sri_gan
01-11-2004, 10:38 PM
Reks,

Solluranga pasanga mattum than vellaikku porangala 70% of ponnungalum than vellaikku poranga... svangalukku mattum tension irrukatha nu...

sabeshan
01-11-2004, 11:45 PM
Reks what u said is true but it is not the complete truth... i agree that women these days have more tension than men in the fact that they work and take care of household chores too... but thing is even though men's worries are less in number, they are of higher degree.. let me explain... women have more number of worries in terms of day-to-day activities like cooking, house cleaning, job etc... but men somehow have the inclination to be the 'guide' for the family... ie men do more top level management in family than women do.... what women do is more in terms of magnitude but it is mostly monotonous repetitive tasks whereas men think of long term issues like marriage of daughter, son's education which give more worries... hope my point is clearer now....

reks
01-12-2004, 11:13 PM
hallo, ithu romba overa illa .. cooking, house cleaning ithu thaan worries women'ku.. men mattum major'a worry panni thalrangalakom..
so women dont worry abt their daughters marriage or sons education future.. :evil:

lets take both the situation.. in veedu's where women dont go to work they worry abt these things.. and in addition they have to worry abt their husbands being serious abt these things.. :Ksp:
When women too go to work, they worry equally in the same magnitude abt these things as men do :doh:

sabeshan
01-13-2004, 02:49 AM
hello reks, even in houses where women work, they may share the financial aspect of expsenses like daughter's marriage or son's education etc. and even suggest ideas to husband but more often than not it is the guy who is the executive head here... ultimately it is him who should go ahead with a decision, a woman can only help him refine his decisions etc... her role is more on the sidelines... not to mean, however, that women are unimportant... women are equally as important (if not more) as men to a family... but my point is that being implementers of ideas and decisions, men have more worries that they shud work as planned...

sri_gan
01-13-2004, 03:00 AM
Ithu ennada rendu perume payangaram solluranga...

Reks ennada naa.. payanga ponnuga pathi womenkku kavalai illaya nu kekuranga...

sabeshan solluraru vazhakai oda tharam uyara, paadu padurathu man than decision edukurathum avanthan anna athukku uruthunai (refine his decisions) irrukurathu women nu...

Sabash nalla ve pesurenga rendu perum... enn mandai than kadasila kayum pola irruke..

reks
01-13-2004, 06:00 AM
ultimately it is him who should go ahead with a decision, a woman can only help him refine his decisions etc... her role is more on the sidelines... not to mean, however, that women are unimportant... women are equally as important (if not more) as men to a family... but my point is that being implementers of ideas and decisions, men have more worries that they shud work as planned...

chance'ae illa... most of the veedus its Meenakshi rajiyam only... Men chumma ipdi veliya solitu alayvanga.... naangalum paavam pathu solitu potum viturvom...
but the undeniable fact is - women takes the final decision... :yes:

naduvar avarglae... intha topic'la innoru pati mandram thodankalama...